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December 28, 2004


Gil Friend

I was thinking the same thing. Closest thing I could find was these two paragraphs, at http://www.financegates.com/news/world_news/2004-12-29/tsunami_29122004.html


The company called for measures to be taken to counter the climate change that in Munich Re’s opinion was responsible for the disaster.

"The terrible effects spreading all around the Indian Ocean and reaching as far as the Horn of Africa are a further reminder of the global threat from natural catastrophes," executive board member Stefan Heyd said in the reinsurer’s annual disaster report.


Note that the assertion in the first paragraph is not what the Munich Re executive said, in the quote in the second paragraph.

Christina Holland

Wow. I'm a physical oceanographer. NO ONE with actual knowledge is saying that global warming had anything to do with this event. It was an undersea earthquake. And if the repubs really want to fund us to put seismometers along the mid-oceans ridges and such, I say great, but given their preoccupation with missile defense systems that have never worked, I don't really see that as likely.


WOW you could drive a fuel guzzling truck through the holes in the 'story' by Louis Hissink on the Henry Thornton site. Illogical and unsubstantiated claims.

Although, in his own words, Louis says that it would be perverse (or "peverse") to "blame the death toll on the Global Warming lobby and the IPCC". A Freudian admission that he himself deliberately departs from what is normal, good or proper?


I'm dumbstruck that any scientist who wants to discredit climate change claims would quote from a work of fiction, let alone claim that a work of fiction "demonstrates" anything!

Dr. Michaels suggestion that "Michael Crichton should sue environmentalists ... for plagiarism" is just silly. Sci-fi writers often keep abreast of scientific developments. Science and technology has followed in the footsteps of science fiction before. Should sci-fi authors take out patents and sue scientists and companies, even if real science spurred their imagination?

Gray Russell

The only comments I have read connecting the tsunami disaster to "environmental" issues (more societal, really) are that: 1) until 50 years ago, many of the affected areas were unpopulated because longtime populations were concentrated more inland until the growing tourist industry brought coastal communities; and, 2) in some areas, massive fish farms raising cheap shrimp for affluent consumers have decimated the mangroves which served as buffers protecting huge swaths of the coastline.

Justin Lehrer

Unbelievable stuff. Naomi Oserkes issued a statement clarifying her point (that Dr. Michaels completely mutilated.)

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